Saturday, May 26, 2012

Discussing Right from Wrong with Lynch (and a guest appearance by Ryan Gosling)


Lately I’ve been frustrated. Too much information has entered my brain, and I can’t retain it all—especially from this class.

 

We’ve discussed a lot of theories from a lot of scholars. If I were a good student, I would have been making a list as we read. But it is too late…

 

OH WAIT. We have blog posts.

 

The reason I’ve been frustrated is because I was trying to tie everything together: how do I take all of these theories and create a teaching philosophy? If I can’t take all of the theories, which ones should I value? If I value some over others, am I a bad person? An inept teacher? A curmudgeon?

 

My first step in remembering what we read and discussed was to review older posts. Here are some of the finer points made by YOU (or not you, depending on who you are.)

 

The point is, for the critic (which is what FYC instructors are) we are to always exist with the orientation of questioning both status quo and resistance.” – Aaron, on critical rhetoric

 

This process avoids position knowledge as static and encourages students to center their focus on the process of dynamic inquiry.” – James, on Postman

 

“Normativity can only be recognized in outline against the deviant.  It strikes me that this must require making the deviant visible.  How can we, in our classrooms, use this visibility to complicate students' understanding of their own positionalit(ies)?” – Sarah, on disability studies

 

“My hope is that we will all (continue to) consider the ways we invite heteronormativity in our classrooms – as both teachers and students, and, in response, the ways we might be able to create queer, safe spaces in and outside of academia.” – Hillery, on Queer theory


Was the Internet ever a pure democratic, "rational-critical" space in which multiple participants could shape and reshape the discourse and resist hegemonic discourses and narratives?” – Matt, during ecology and complexity week

 

If you read those quotes instead of skipping over them (as I often do too), you will see a pattern. The key to several theories is resistance. I think this relates directly to Paul Lynch’s article “Composition as a Thermostatic Activity.”

 

As a student, I never like when a professor makes his/her political status known or when they have strong opinions that they preach. Lynch says students view this as “pushing an agenda” (737). I think he’s right. It has the ability to change classroom conversation, constrict freedom of thought, speech, and opinion, and is only ego-boosting to teachers who think they’ve enlightened students who, in reality, might only be telling the teacher what he/she wants to hear. As a teacher, I am easily frustrated when my colleagues tell me they have every right to be politically open in their classroom. One even said something along the lines of “they believe everything we say, so we should tell them what to think.” No. No no no no no no.

 

Want to hear another frustration? When supposedly open-minded people—our professors, our colleagues, ourselves—forget that there are two sides to every opinion and a lot of murky grey areas too. So hearing Lynch’s plea for teachers to set aside their ideologies and start thinking about their students’ ideologies was pretty damn refreshing.

 

Lynch asks, “What rationale could I offer for having wanted to change anyone’s mind in the first place?” (732)

 

His use of “change” is key for me. Teachers who believe something (like…Volvos are the only cars anyone should drive) should not have a goal to change their students’ views to simply agree. If a student claims he believes in Chevys, let him believe that. But take Lynch’s devil’s advocate position and make the student back up every single claim. Challenge the student in every way. Point out the grey areas. Give the student reason to question his/her beliefs. And if they do all of this and still think Chevy is the way to go, let them think that.

 

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Lynch questions, “How can they [teachers using the thermostatic technique] do this without coercing their students into false agreement or resentful silence? How can they present a counter-argument while keeping all other arguments in play?” (736)

 

I believe students do not have to feel this way if the teacher is not aiming for a particular answer. If a student is opposed to gay marriage, the job of the instructor shouldn’t be to phrase questions that lead the student to argue a particular thing or defend him/herself. Instead, they should engage with that student and converse. “What about this…” and “How would you respond to…” If they are actually critically thinking, they’ll see the value of the teacher pointing out flaws and grey areas. If they are not critically thinking and just holding on to their firm beliefs, they probably will become resentful. I think getting students to talk about issues is key. Make them give reason. Make them get to that point where they cannot answer—the grey area.

 

Every person believes there are “better” stances on certain topics. These are their viewpoints. But if teachers forget that these viewpoints are not correct just because they believe them, they put their teaching and classroom at risk. There is no truth; there is not right or wrong. There are widely held beliefs that stem from our histories, religions, upbringings, educations, and experiences. As we try to get our students to question everything they think, we should also remind ourselves that opposing opinions are allowed. What we think is wrong might be right for someone else. And if we are challenging our students to think about both right and wrong, they will maybe find that they can still be right as long as they consider how they could be wrong.

 

Show me my grey areas. Converse with me on this topic. Ryan Gosling already did.
  
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13 comments:

  1. I'm just wondering if you can put the idea that there are no absolutes, and no political agendas that we should carry into our classrooms, into conversation with my experience (shared in class, but I'll share it again just to refresh memories) of having a student who wanted to write a paper on how Jews control the international media and banking systems, using Mein Kampf and The Protocals of the Elders of Zion as sources? I'm not asking this to be reductive or to put you in a difficult place. I genuinely want to know if you feel that the ONLY way to confront students who want to support abhorrent positions is by allowing them to do so. If so, how should the instructor engage with the student writing from this position? If not, what allows the instructor to know the difference between those things which are "over the line" and those which aren't?

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    1. Sarah--
      I think I'm trying to theorize without having the language or thought process to do so.

      The point I was/am trying to make is that no one should say that something is wrong or right, or unethical, or whatever. It's the God complex thing that bothers me. Instead, as in this example, I would like to see the instructor work with the student to uncover other views on it. So if a student says it is fine to kill someone for standing in front of the doughnut case at the grocery store for too long, I would expect the teacher to reveal a majority of the population disagrees, based on our laws that we agree to follow (or risk punishment) by living in this country.

      I just want instructors to help students "see the light" on their (the student's) own terms. The instructor should conference with them to catch them in their grey areas--where can they not argue back? If they argue for something asinine, the instructor should guide them to different sources. If they reject those sources, then they are not being rational, reasonable arguers. If they accept these sources but have the rationale to discuss why they are still not as strong as their belief, let them argue for their side. If they can fully address the various contexts that make up both sides of the argument--as outlined above--shouldn't they be allowed to think their thoughts?

      I think I'm just restating my blog post, that obviously wasn't clear to begin with. Frowny face.

      Basically, yes. I believe that a student should be allowed to think what they want without me telling them they are wrong. It is my job, though, to guide them to the light without FORCING them to go into the light. They should at least bask in the light and understand the light and reference the light and argue against the light and be reasonable and rational about it and then after all of that if they still want the dark, I will let them keep it.

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  2. Thanks for the post Ashely. It's brought to mind so many different threads of thought for me. I'm going to try to discuss them as concisely and clearly as possible. If they don't make sense, totally feel free to disregard!

    I just found an interesting article called "Radical Change Theory, Youth Information Behavior, and School Libraries" by Eliza T. Dresang and Kyungwon Koh about Radical Change Theory, a theory that began as a way for librarians and library studies to account for the way digital natives (our students) develop thought processes that are generally at odds with those valued by their teachers and the institutions they represent because of digital/new media. According to Dresang and Koh, they believe the tenets of RCT can extend beyond its origin in the context of the library, and I'm going to propose perhaps using it as a starting point to view the paradigmatic disparities that exist between us and our students.

    This is something I think about and am paralyzed by ALL THE TIME. How much is too much? Where do I draw the line between informing and inculcating? I feel like the Lu and Horner piece really spoke to this in terms of students' needs and expectations out of college educations and FYC writing and how they differ with us idealistic TAs who want nothing more than to see our students develop their identities and senses of self and culture through writing. I definitely do not have any answers for you, but I just wanted to say that this article has been beginning to give me hope. I think there's real worth in studying the altering thought processes of digital natives because by doing so we might be able to understand what matters to them (rather than making that reductionist move we so often do and simply saying "they don't care") and use that information to alter our pedagogies to align with and enrich those values and interests.

    Erm, does that make any sense? I don't know, but basically just trying to say that I feel you, and I'm with Ryan Gosling on this one: loved your blog post :)

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    1. Kate--
      I was nodding a lot while reading your response. I'm excited to read your draft on Thursday too. I think we'll have kind of the same call for action informed by different theories.

      I have also often wondered if we asked "why don't they care" if we would discover info that could help us reach our students. It reminds me of the Gallager (?) piece that critiqued compositionists for living in our own little world where we quote each other while talking to each other. Maybe we need to bring other disciplines into our research in order to propose effective pedagogies for the millenials (and beyond.)

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  3. We have had a number of readings take something like AE's stand--Lynch, Postman, Lu and Horner. I might add to this Sanchez-Casal and McDonald because they take a similar stand against inculcation and advocate a different approach to still critique, say, homophobia, through analysis of the cultural sources of such beliefs in varied instances. There is still a progressive agenda of liberation from oppressive ideologies. This raises the question of whether it is the agenda that is at fault or the pedagogical approach. I favor the latter since I think there should be room for inquiry into all sorts of difficult, unsettling, and controversial issues.

    A brief story:

    For some years I have taught a J course focused on environmental issues. At first I said, "This course assumes that global climate change is real, a serious threat, and is largely caused by human industry." There were students who chafed at that, but I thought of it as analogous to teaching a holocaust themed course that assumed that the H happened.

    Over time, though, I realized that there were students who really were undecided and I let them research it. This is a hard research topic. They did not do so well with it, but almost all of them concluded that the "skeptics" arguments did not hold water. It took me a while to approach these and other issues as fully debatable, but I think classes are better if you do and with a few exceptions I tend to think that being the roadrunner is a better way to catch the coyote. That said, I would have no problem saying no to Sarah's Saudis, at least on their sources and the Jewishness or not of the instructor should not become the issue. It would be good for them to study the international banking system through quality sources and to discover who, in fact, does control it.

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    1. As stated in my response to Sarah, I think guidance to those "quality sources" is key.

      I agree it is the pedagogical approach. Like we discussed in class, it is impossible to completely abandon personal beliefs in the classroom. But I also wonder if there is an uncontrollable factor that our students present--even if we think we've thought each side of the argument through and are prepared to play devil's advocate, they might bring something we're not prepared for. I guess we have to wait for those moments--like in Sarah's case--and (attempt to) prepare for them the next time...?

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  4. This is one of my favorite blog posts, Ashley. I love the idea of collecting various voices; they provide a nice snapshot to our discussions and even as they invoke resistance, they also demonstrate our individual agendas we carry in our pockets and into the classroom.

    As an overtly out queer, who advocates at every opportunity I get, I understand this tension and I respect your resistance to indoctrination to OUR beliefs and values. I like to find unique ways around this, and as the years go on, I work harder and harder to NOT put my opinions out there for students to take on or feel pressured to agree with because I want them to do the thinking for themselves.

    Foucault does a great job of side-stepping this issue by asking how we reach our ideologies in the first place, rather than simply pressing them upon others. This genealogy - this excavation process - begs engagement and inquiry, and that is what I feel most comfortable doing as a FYW teacher. As an example, instead of asking students why same sex couples shouldn't be able to marry, I might ask why the queer community might resist marriage. This allows them to dig into the issue from a side door...who knows where they'll end up?

    And even though I do tell tell my students, on the very first day of class, that I am queer and focus on queer studies, I also tell them the reason I bring it up is because it is my "thing," my passion, and the lens I use for all of my coursework and my research. I explain that I hope they will someday discover their "thing," whatever it may be, through their research and coursework, just as I did in a Literary Theory course (where I was first introduced to Judith Butler).

    I'm happy to hear that so many of us are resistant, to so many different things, because if we weren't, we'd be letting ourselves, all of these theorists, Ryan Gosling, and our students down. We cannot preach what we are not willing to praxis!

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    1. Hillery- I really like this comment! But I'm noticing a possible tension that is implicit in its workings, and I could be wrong. Because of your queer positionality that you outline on the first day of class, do you notice that students feel "pressured" to think about your course issues in a certain way? Or "agree" with whatever you say? I have never done anything like this so it's an honest question, and I really hope it's not offensive in any way. We all know that student's "comfort zones" are to be told what to say/do in order to "get the grade." I think your "side door" approach is a great one, but one that I worry might not be fully possible when you are "overtly out," as you say. I guess I'm just curious how this works...

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    2. Thanks, Hillery. I realllllly like your side door idea. It seems so obvious, yet I never considered making my students think from the grey area first rather than the black and white options.

      I wanted to address Brianna's questions too. I understand her fear, but I think the instructor makes a difference. It doesn't seem like you push or force your ideologies on your students....and that is the difference. It's very different if a professor says he/she is a raging liberal but remains open-minded when students present their views or arguments compared to a professor making known he/she is a raging liberal and making everyone who thinks different feel like an idiot or an asshole. It is very different. And like I said in my blog post, some instructors feel they have the right to act like the latter.

      In conclusion, I think it still might affect your classroom that you're so open. BUT I also believe you have a safe classroom, and I can't imagine students feeling too uncomfortable to stay quiet or say what they think.

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    3. Sorry for saying "different" 2,092 times.

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  5. This has made me think of my "black out topics" list for researched arguments. I know that having a black out topics list is a little controversial, and that there are those who believe students should be free to write about anything that interests them/they feel passionate about. The list isn't particularly long (abortion, marriage equality, legalizing marijuana, lowering the drinking age, steroids in sports, and prayer in schools... I haven't found it necessary to add denying Shoah, because I'm really hoping that was a one time thing!). When I present the list, I explain that these are topics which create difficulty for me in the evaluation process, either because I am deeply committed to a single side of the argument or because the topics are simply so common that I have read too many papers making similar arguments and will have a difficult time seeing the invention and original thinking in their work as a result. I don't tell the students which topics fall into which category. Several fall into both. For me, this is an exercise in both acknowledging my political self in the classroom and my position as evaluator. I really DON'T think I can read another paper on legalizing marijuana with any enthusiasm, and I think the students have a right to know which topics frustrate my generosity as a reader.

    I also think that, as Jonathon mentioned above, this is a way to acknowledge positionality and set it aside. It opens up a conversation about my role as evaluator and about my desire to be generous in my evaluation, and it allows me to express my material needs and limitations in that role.

    The list is, of course, fluid. If I taught a section with many college athletes, for instance, I would remove the prohibition against writing about steroids in sports because they are stakeholders in that debate.

    I don't know how I could be apolitical in my classroom, although I believe there are instructors who are able to do this. (They probably just aren't ones with photo albums full of themselves marching through DC with protest signs and dreadlocks. As Popeye says, "I yam what I yam.") So, instead, I try to acknowledge my political and personal positionalities in a way that says "Okay, yeah, here are some places where I have my own blind spots/fatigue with topics and--just as I avoid certain topics in the classroom because I know they place students in untenable positions--I ask that we avoid them."

    I am starting to question the "okayness" of this, as a result of the readings, but at this point am not ready to abandon it. I think I have an obligation to treat my students fairly and with dignity, and I don't know that I can do that across all topics and all iterations of the same topic. Is that bad?

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    1. Sarah, I don't feel it is bad at all. I am so glad you posted this, because you articulated the banned topics list in a way I could not- and I feel the same way! I seriously doubt that I will ever read an article condemning abortion or keeping marijuana illegal and agree with its stance. I could, however, evaluate the paper based on the rubric in place and assess it objectively. But I would not enjoy it at all. Which is why I ban those topics. I think if we are honest and tell students the truth (as you have done above), they will appreciate us for our honesty and desire to give them the best possible chance of writing a paper that we will appreciate. At least, that's what I would think if an instructor told me that (which strangely, none ever have).

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    2. No, not bad. You're aware of topics that you cannot remove your stakes in. Although I wonder if letting your students write about those topics would improve their researching and stance--you'd be the master devil's advocator!

      I ban topics too--but I tell my students it is because there is nothing new to add to the conversation. If there was a recent development that changed the conversation on "insert banal, stereotypical research paper topic", then I'd say "go for it." EXIGENCY!

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